Legends Never Die

  bzichett
Thursday, Jan. 17 2019, 09:08:08 AM
Edited: Thursday, May. 27 2021, 05:09:07 AM

The "legends" of our ancestors really never die. They can become mind viruses, transmitted through symbols / words that are passed down via books and vocal chords, through our schools and stories.

But I dont judge viruses negatively anymore. I know better. Biological viruses are surely one in part of the super species we humans have become. We can manifest these legends as guardian "angels" or tulpas ...illusions.  Just as our DNA and the viruses that fused with it synergistically leveled up, so can we use illusions to change ourselves for the better.

Carl Jung focused on the aspect of dreams where mythological beings and ancestors can appear in your dream, making for a more powerful experience than the normal dream. But this is more than dreams of our sleep. Its about the dreams of our waking reality.

If we put enough mental energy into this manifestation during our wakeful state, we can do more...

These legends are and would be limited to what we know about them, of course, but with good (divine) intention they grow for the same reason we grow. All is in a state of flux. The energy spent on thinking and imagining forever changes the future of the minds laddicework.

Thinking and imagining alters the labyrinth, shifting it's passageways and making the unknown Known. 

After manifestation of an illusion, here's where it gets interesting. We are free to hinge ourselves upwards towards these greater illusions until they manifest as something more. As tools, guides for how we navigate the wily world and the minds mazes. We may not be them but we can deploy their being in our waking reality. We can interact with the world and people, and strategize in ways more optimal than you currently imagine yourself

Actually, the way you imagine yourself can never be accurate

Legend: a story coming down from the past, especially one popularly regarded as historical although not verifiable

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/legend

In a sense, we are all Legends. We’ve all already created unverifiable stories about ourselves and our past, that exists solely in the realm of imagination. The difference? Youve learned about the other legends via external sources. You've learned about yourself only through your own explorations of your mind and reality, the latter bends depending on your frame of reference and experiences.

"Stand on the shoulders of giants" is a vaguely superficially related techo-atheistic sentiment. But a giant can not withstand being stood on by another giant. And what about the next, 3rd generation? These legends are illusions and dont exist outside your mind. The knowledge is only momentarily real when it is manifested by the mind of conscious beings. That is, if we see value in their integration, we can begin to convert thoughts into destiny (a wide chasm lays between them):

Your thoughts become your words,

Myths tend to cover spheres of spirituality and the intangible, unsummarizable by words

Non fictional ancestors cover spheres of philosophy, politics & technology

A mix of 1 & 2 is the overlaying of mythic elements on real ancestors

One of the issues that I see with modern society is the lack of understanding of the myths, and a resolute focus on the latter. Some of you reading this may look down upon people who mistake myth as the Real. But, interestingly, they have a much more clear path to manifesting destiny since they need not deal with inanimate nihilism; a spiritual affliction that induces the loss of the absolute greatness of illusions.  “Absolute” because our ancestors (or something greater…) imbued them with with greatness for their descendants: Us.

So the particular followers of some mythology may be deceived, yet they are following the principles above.  One of the most impressive examples is Jesus Christ. A complex mix of myth and ancestor. Christians use him as a guide, a guardian angel or whatever the label of the times may be. I’ve met more than a couple of people who have claimed to speak to their Christian God (in highly ritualistic settings usally.) There appears to be similar potential in myths in all religions and spirituality.

In fact, their reality is generated by a resolute belief in them. The rules of mental sensation are far from understood, but the fact I can "hear" myself talking without moving my vocal chords is one hint that our being can somehow skip the physical realm entirely, interpreting electro-chemico-aetherical formations to a limit or no limit at all.

So who inspires you?  What myth can inspire you, if framed with the appropriate intentions?

What are your limits as a being in this world? Who are you? And who do you want to become?


 louis - 3 years, 5 months ago Open

I’m wary of statements like this (I do occasionally make them myself), it confuses the point by using some kind of logical hole is something that’s not intended to be construed that way. You’re introducing physics to something that uses a mythological metaphor. This, the previous and following sentence actually feel unnecessary to the rest of the point made in the paragraph.

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 bzichett - 3 years, 5 months ago Open

You’re introducing physics to something that uses a mythological metaphor

This was / is one of my premises. To mix the real with the unreal.

See:

Myths tend to cover spheres of spirituality and the intangible, unsummarizable by words

Non fictional ancestors cover spheres of philosophy, politics & technology

A mix of 1 & 2 is the overlaying of mythic elements on real ancestors

I suppose I could add “physics” to the non fiction area. Anyway, no thought is “necessary” so to speak. Do they help or not? Do they aid in seeing reality (or imagination) in a new way?

That was the goal of this paper. Its another angle on the thoughts manifesting reality.

A little more clarification would be that both real “great” people from the past and Legends have both have utility and perhaps a synergy between them and your own destiny could be a helpful tool (or hack) in order to [get things of value done] with an undying intensity, full speed ahead mentality. That is the somewhat backhanded meaning of Legends Never Die in the context of the essay. These great myths and individuals from the past share that in common - the seed of their idea(s) were not allowed to die - it was brought to fruition through sheer conscious action. At least that’s the best of it (ignoring chance / aleatoric contributions.) And we can be like that. All of them are simply valuable energetic individual or societal illusions. They can move us in our lonesome but also allow us to communicate with others about what it takes to move society.

Another angle is that our education (propaganda / history) tends to pedestalize these people in our history (inventors, generals, politicians, priests etc.) A lot of their stories aren’t even true (or rather, can be proven beyond a doubt.) Some of the “history” is false and some of the “myths” are true! But I still think we can harness that powerful feeling we get when we imagine (whether or not true) another great myth / individual doing something that inspires us / moves us. Its an illusive feeling generated solely by our own psych complex and historical [in]accuracies. That is a human ability as far as I’m concerned. It might be called “spirituality” even. It is exploitable (in the positive sense.)

In my opinion, a lot of nihilists today have killed that mythic (greater than material life) feeling (and claim they have replaced it with something else, which may sometimes be true, but possibly never of equal value potential.)

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